{"id":9598,"date":"2021-09-16T14:53:51","date_gmt":"2021-09-16T12:53:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sybir.bialystok.pl\/niechciana-prawda-co-swiat-wie-i-jak-mowi-o-zbrodniach-komunizmu-dyskusja-panelowa\/"},"modified":"2021-10-14T10:47:37","modified_gmt":"2021-10-14T08:47:37","slug":"the-unwanted-truth-what-does-the-world-know-and-tell-about-the-communism-crimes-panel-discussion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sybir.bialystok.pl\/en\/the-unwanted-truth-what-does-the-world-know-and-tell-about-the-communism-crimes-panel-discussion\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201eThe Unwanted Truth? What does the world know and tell about the communism crimes\u201d \u2014 panel discussion"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Krzysztof Czy\u017cewski,PhD, director of the Centre \u201cBorderland of Arts, Cultures and Nations\u201d in Sejny, Krystyna Jaworska, PhD from the University of Turin, Arunas Bubnys, PhD, director of the Center for the Study of Genocide and Resistance of Lithuanian Residents and Director of the Sybir Memorial Museum, Wojciech \u015aleszy\u0144ski, PhD tried to answer the following questions together: how to talk about the Soviet crimes today? How to talk about it with the younger generations? How important is at the same time international cooperation?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p>Shortly after the war, the witnesses of the soviet crimes felt in the West, as Gustaw Herling-Grudzi\u0144ski and Czes\u0142aw Mi\u0142osz called it, plagued \u2014 said Krzysztof Czy\u017cewski, director of the Centre \u201cBorderland of Arts, Cultures and Nations\u201d in Sejny, who led the panel discussion. No one wanted to listen to their experiences their written memoirs were rejected by publishers. They were thought to be dangerous, obsessed with the East \u2014 he added.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Krystyna Jaworska, PhD from the University of Turin reminded the publication prepared by the Polish Second Corps of general Anders. \u2014 \u201cSprawiedliwo\u015b\u0107 Sowiecka\u201d (\u201cSoviet Justice\u201d) was the first publication including the maps of labor camps. Translation into French and Italian language has been prepared, but it took its toll. It was the inconvenient truth, because the Soviet Union was at that time an ally and the Polish military press was subject to allied censorship <a>\u2014<\/a> she explained.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cInny \u015awiat\u201d (\u201cAnother World\u201d) by Grudzi\u0144ski published in the 50s in Italy was not also noticed. When the efforts were made to publish the book in French, it was rejected by publishers. French philosopher Jean Paul Sartre voiced his opinion, that workers, who believe in the communist utopia should not be demoralized. The testimony of the victims of the soviet repressions did not add up, because it \u201cvandalized the communist party\u2019s work\u201d &nbsp;\u2014 said the researcher.In Lithuania the creators of the underground publications describing the crimes were taken to Gulag. \u2014 said Arunas Bubnys, PhD, director of the Center for the Study of Genocide and Resistance of Lithuanian Residents. For the country the breakthrough was the year 1988, when&nbsp; National Renewal and the Study for Genocide and Resistance of Lithuanian Residents were made. Then, collecting memoirs begun, It was then that the collection of testimonies began without repressions by the authorities, he explained.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In Italy, similarly to Poland \u2014 said Jaworska, PhD \u2014 such the breakthrough was the year 1989.&nbsp; Paradoxically, \u201cInny \u015awiat\u201d (\u201cAnother World\u201d) by Herling-Grudzi\u0144ski was published by a publisher.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here come the questions, how to speak about the soviet crimes today? How to talk about it with the young generations? \u2014 asked the leader of the panel. The director of the Sybir Memorial Museum, Wojciech \u015aleszy\u0144ski, PhD, stressed how important is the role of modern historians: \u2014 It is a misfortune, when a historian becomes a prosecutor. It is our task to describe. When we speak about the Polish experience, we are interested in it. 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data-link=\"https:\/\/sybir.bialystok.pl\/niechciana-prawda-co-swiat-wie-i-jak-mowi-o-zbrodniach-komunizmu-dyskusja-panelowa\/dsc_0509-sredni\/\" class=\"wp-image-8504\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sybir.bialystok.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/DSC_0509-Sredni-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/sybir.bialystok.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/DSC_0509-Sredni-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/sybir.bialystok.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/DSC_0509-Sredni-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/sybir.bialystok.pl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/DSC_0509-Sredni.jpg 1152w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/li><\/ul><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>The numbers show the mutual pain. In soviet \u201cposiolek\u201d people from different countries met each other. My father stressed, that the first victim of the regime was the Russian nation \u2014 stressed Jaworska, PhD.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>The director of the museum stressed the role of historians\u2019 cooperation and museum workers from different countries touched by the communism experience: \u2014 We perfectly cooperate with the Russian \u201cMemorial\u201d, with the Museum of the Gulag History in Moscow. One of the first exhibitions in our museum was the exposition prepared by the Museum of the Holodomor-Genocide in Kyiv. I cannot imagine our institution functioning in a different way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>The video of the panel discussion can be seen under the link:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns are-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:100%\"><p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/video.php?height=314&#038;href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fmuzeumpamiecisybiru%2Fvideos%2F423420186000061%2F&#038;show_text=true&#038;width=560&#038;t=0\" width=\"560\" height=\"429\" style=\"border:none;overflow:hidden\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowFullScreen=\"true\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Krzysztof Czy\u017cewski,PhD, director of the Centre \u201cBorderland of Arts, Cultures and Nations\u201d in Sejny, Krystyna Jaworska, PhD from the University of Turin, Arunas Bubnys, PhD, director of the Center for the Study of Genocide and Resistance of Lithuanian Residents and Director of the Sybir Memorial Museum, Wojciech \u015aleszy\u0144ski, PhD tried to answer the following questions together: how to talk about the Soviet crimes today? 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